Tuesday, December 20, 2005

Last night Rian attended a family dinner. Heartsister cooked. Twelve or thirteen of Rian's near family attended, yes, of different generations.
Somehow - Rian does not remember- the topic came around to homosexuality. We argued the nature vs nurture theory. Rian believes that there is a gene or gene combination, just as Rian believes every bit of us is preprogrammed.
"There is no proof of that!" an Auntie argued.
"Homosexuality occurs in nature." Rian pointed out.
"No." The Auntie argued.
"Yes," John said,"Studies have been done. There are gay animals in nature."
"If there are," the Auntie said, "the other animals must shun them."
"What?" Rian choked forgetting the more polite 'beg pardon'.
Later the conversation turned to a family friend who is a near Olympic safaree style hunter.
"He eats everything he catches," said the same Auntie.
"You mean he shoots animals?" Heartsister cried.
"Don't worry love," Rian said, disgusted and snide, "only the gay ones."
Naughty Eldest Child.

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6 Comments:

Blogger Archie Furrows said...

Naughty Rian :)

12:10 PM  
Blogger H said...

Reminds me of a joke that circulated among gay men in the 80's as AIDS took off and slew so many.

A young man discoveres he has AIDS and is unsure how to break the news to his family. Finally he decides on a method. He tells his parents that he has good news and bad news, and he will tell it in whatever order his parents want.

"Bad news first" says his father.

"Ok" the son says,

"The bad news is that I'm gay"

"The good news is that I'm dying"

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With families like that, it is no wonder that this was a common sentiment.

I wish I had been at that dinner. There are sound biological arguments why humans in particular would have natursal selection working in favor of some members ofthe population being gay.

12:29 PM  
Blogger Emano said...

"Every bit of us is preprogrammed."
Truly you believe this?

12:32 PM  
Blogger transparency said...

"There are sound biological arguments..."
aha! *curious*

12:38 PM  
Blogger Emma said...

Yes, good on you.

Was it Auntie Doona with the opinions?

6:19 PM  
Blogger H said...

Yes, as we are social creatures, needing a community for support/protection and because our children are dependent for so very long, and as our lifespans were not THAT long until recently, having members of the society who tend not to produce children of their own provides adult support to kin who DO reproduce. Having an aunt or uncle who were available for childcare and/or matrial support (food, shelter, protection) probably helped kids survive. Those kids in turn might carry the assortment of genes that might produce more homosexuals.

The genetic factors involved are not at all clear. Certainly our society views homosexuality negaticvely enough that most who could go either way will tend to behave straight.

Simple statsitics in twin studies points to a high genetic influence. For human a behavioral trait that has 50% occurance in the other of identical twins is considred highly genetically influenced.

http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrights/sexorient/twins.html

There is also the possiblity that the same genetic factors that cause for instance a man to be homosexual, may cause a woman to be more fertile. A study published a year ago in the pretigeous science journal Nature lends support to that second hypothesis.

http://www.nature.com/news/2004/041011/pf/041011-5_pf.html

12:10 AM  

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